This is not a joke at all. It is a serious matter, very serious matter, so serious that I have decided to put out a post on it.

I have often heard so many people compare these two greatest players in the world. Of course, most people have their favourites of the two. They keep bringing more and more stats, both objective and sentimental points to show who is better.

I think the day I gave up was when one of my friends said Messi points up to the sky, meaning he is acknowledging God while Ronaldo points at himself meaning he is proud and does not acknowledge God..

I was dumbfounded. But that is not our focus today, because I can assure you it is never going to end.

However, this post seeks to debunk a widely circulated myth and ideology among many, that RONALDO IS A HARDWORKER which has placed him on the pedestal that he is today, while MESSI HAS MORE TALENT and this is the reason why He has also achieved all the feats in His career.

When I hear people speak like this, I am very surprised I tell you, and even more shocking are the reasons they give. I have not been able to find a very reasonable explanation though. If you have one, I would be happy to read it in the comments section.

The media and some of his teammates have fueled this assumption reporting that CR7 works so hard and pushes himself beyond his limits. While this is great for motivational talks, it does not depict a factual appraisal of the duo.

So, this is a critical, intellectual and intelligent discourse to prove the fallacy of this assumption.

Let us begin:

1.What hardwork does a 7 years old boy do?

Ronaldo started playing football from his very early days and at the age of 7, he was already playing at Andorinha, where his Father was the equipment manager. Now, let us understand it, what kind of hardwork would he possibly have been doing then? Would a child with no talent or passion whatsoever be signed to an amateur team there AND EXCEL?

Yes, his father was a very important factor, but the truth still remains that in the absence of talent or passion for a sport, the child would most likely fail, especially looking at the success he has recorded so far.

Lionel Messi started playing also at the age of 6 at Newell’s old boys, an Argentine club. There was also a distinct passion and talent that was observed at this age, which made him stand out from his counterparts, even then. So you see, greatness did not just jump on these guys.

They started from somewhere, from talent and passion. They were first enjoying what they did as kids. Of course, the Portuguese and Argentines have a rich football history and culture, that even encouraged such talents and so they were not the only ones playing at that age. But they were able to stand out.

Why?

They started on the basis of talent.

All of the hardwork that we see CR7 putting into himself did not start when he was 5 or 7. It came with his growth and realization of himself.

In summary, one does not start playing football from 5 years, progress through different clubs and at 34, would have won 5 ballon d’or awards without talent. It is a serious delusion to think so!

2. If this argument holds true, then it means that any random player that works hard would win five champions league titles, and five ballon d’or awards and numerous other individual awards from them both!

Pause,

Think about it,

Now, think again.

My friend, go back and think about it!

Now, let’s continue:

How ridiculous! Yes, if you say that the reason why Ronaldo is at this level is because of hardwork, then what you are saying inevitably is that any player not at his level is not hardworking!

Come on, we know that is not true, because you see, for all we know, one player in crown football club in Ogbomoso might be working way harder than these guys!

The fact that you do not know him is enough reason to discredit this theory. Hardwork is very good and we cannot rule it out in any player’s life!

No player can be at the level of Ronaldo or Messi without hardwork!

It takes a lot of hardwork to be in shape, to keep fit and participate in as many matches as these guys participate in week in, week out, year in, year out and the consistency they have both maintained is nothing such of a life of commitment and dedication.

Many people know of some of Ronaldo’s routines and how hard he pushes himself, so I would not delve too much. But I would want to talk about the less discussed person in this regard, Messi.

Messi is also a hardworker who had to combat growth hormone deficiency (I should probably write on this sometime) at the beginning of his career. He also struggled with fitness levels, big time before he burst to the scene…

Infact, do you remember when Messi first started, before he ‘blew big time’. That 2006/ 2007/2008 when he was having serious injury problems?  

Well, do you know how he overcame it?

He got a Physio, fam! He made dietary and lifestyle adjustments and the next season there was of course a rise in his form which was sustained over the next four years, till now.

My point exactly?

Messi also worked hard to overcome the injuries plaguing his career at the beginning. He put in a lot of effort to get here too! DO not be deceived!

Ok, let’s have a ‘commercial’ here, with this video of Messi doing a trick with two Pepsi bottles which went viral recently.

Messi Trick with Pepsi Bottle

So, in your heart of hearts, you really do believe that it was talent that made one bottle stay on top of the other?

Talent?

Come on!

Practice! Experience!! Honed skills!!

Again brethren, be not deceived!

3. Another reason why the assumption is false is that there is no objective measure of the level of talent.

We can measure a bottle of water in gallons or litres, we can count money, of course. But how do you say who is more talented between two people performing on arguably the same level? Who is the judge of the talent?

Now, We say bring out the records, well, here are the records as at March 27, 2019:

All-time career (club and country, but excluding club friendlies)

  • Ronaldo: 682 goals and 218 assists in 953 appearances 
  • Messi: 656 goals and 270 assists in 803 appearances 
  • Hat-tricks: Ronaldo 52; Messi 51
  • Career goal ratio: Ronaldo 0.72; Messi 0.82
  • Penalties: Ronaldo 110 (23 missed); Messi 83 (25 missed)
Ronaldo vs. Messi: Ballon d’Or history
  • Ronaldo wins: 5 (2017, 2016, 2014, 2013, 2008) 
  • Messi wins: 5 (2015, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009)
Messi’s Golden Shoe record
  • 2009-10: 34 goals 
  • 2011-12: 50 goals 
  • 2012-13: 46 goals 
  • 2016-17: 37 goals 
  • 2017-18: 34 goals
Ronaldo’s Golden Shoe record
  • 2007-08: 31 goals 
  • 2010-11: 40 goals 
  • 2013-14: 31 goals (shared with Luis Suarez) 
  • 2014-15: 48 goal

Please, there are more stats, you can check them online, but these are just a few to help our discourse

They are so close, so close, nothing too significant to classify as a world apart…

If only we could have a control experiment, perhaps, then would we able to emphatically and categorically gauge the extent of talent that these players have. The closest we have is the results in terms of goals scored, matches played, assists made and trophies and individual awards. However, they are still all subject to so many factors.

We see dominance in a sphere, under some certain conditions and under some factors, Talk to me… What if those factors were changed? Like Messi in Juve or Madrid? Or Ronaldo in Barca? Or in Chelsea? (Let us keep praying for Hazard!)

There is not one measure of talent that supports that either of these players have more or less. Not one, if you differ, you could comment ooo..Show me and let us learn..

So, who says who has more talent?

Messi/Ronaldo

4. Style of play cannot be completely separated from personality!

Well, as the saying goes, the apple does not fall far from the apple tree,

or wait, is it  mango?

Anyways, you sha get what I am saying….

You cannot remove the way you do anything you love or are passionate about from your entire outlook on life.

As a very good example, if you do not know me personally but have been following my posts regularly (which you should), you can deduce a little about the kind of person I would probably be…

Wait o.. let’s be guided… If things like ‘cool, friendly, jovial, a little playful, godly’ and things in that line are not coming to your mind, I advise you to please discard those thoughts with immediate effect …..

and by the way, you can also read About Me here..

Thank you!

Now let’s continue..

CR7 has always had the mindset of being the best at all costs, pushing himself, doing crazy routines, sometimes, being selfish with the ball or attempting targets that would have otherwise been thought impossible…Did you see that second goal against Athletico? Who nods the ball like that if not CR7???

Messi is a more reserved, calmer person. Some of his teammates when he first moved to Barcelona, in the junior team said they thought he was mute. He rarely spoke, except with his feet. Well, he has changed over time too, but you cannot but observe it in the way he plays. He has a small frame and would not seem to be making so much effort with the ball as he moves around with it.. Although, do not be fooled too, that is a lot of work gone into it too! And wait, did you see that Messi’s second goal against Lyon?

Their personalities would still always reflect in the way that they play and you honestly cannot do anything about that! It does not make one less of a player or more, it just means their style and approach to football and by extension, everything else is different!

I mean, someone has four kids, that says a lot!

Do you really think they do all those dribbles, runs headers and shots on the pitch for the first time? The way you read if you are a very serious student.. is the way they practice day and night to get better..

5. Finally, the hardwork/talent theory cannot explain why one is better than the other.

Yes, someone who does not have talent but works hard of his own volition, meaning that he did not have a natural inclination to really go into football, but he just began to train and work hard, got to the top.

Now compare that to someone who believes that that Messi is more talented but he and someone without talent have the same number of ballon d’or awards together?

So, who is better then? The one who had the ‘natural endowment’ or the one who ‘worked his way up without the natural ‘cheat code?’

This is where the Messipendent people shoot themselves in the foot.

As I conclude, I cannot but say that our generation has witnessed a phenomenon in these two GOATs (Pick your own!), that may take a while to be replicated.

I believe that with these few points of mine, I have been able to convince you, if you are on my side and confuse you, if you are against me, that this Hardwork/Talent theory should be scrapped, removed and thrown into the trashcan in the room of commonsense!

Think about it!

Feel free to comment, repost, and very importantly share to all those people who need to be enlightened about this fallacy!

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12 Comments

David Omof · April 3, 2019 at 7:26 am

Great stuff.

You killed it Bro, you’ve got to make many more read this!

    admin · April 4, 2019 at 5:42 am

    Thanks bro

Olusomi · April 3, 2019 at 9:17 am

Great write up, your points were well articulated. You couldn’t have wrote it better.

    admin · April 4, 2019 at 5:42 am

    Thank you

AJ · April 3, 2019 at 2:27 pm

A lot of people would argue that Messi has been playing the exact same way and doing the exact same things as he has been doing since he was a child. You can confirm this by watching his La Masia clips. Ronaldo as a child was not too exceptional. He had to really work on himself. Later, he had to change his style to become more direct. The fact that Messi won the Ballon D’or 4 times in a row and then Ronaldo just seemingly became a real challenger after that seems to be a testament to the fact that Ronaldo had to work hard to get to Messi’s level.

And nobody says Messi is not hardworking or Ronaldo is not talented. Messi is just obviously way more talented, and Ronaldo is obviously way more hardworking as many of his teammates have testified.

And talent can actually be measured. Though not objectively. It’s how we know Hazard is more talented than say Iwobi. Talent is a measure of the number of natural abilities and the level of proficiency at those abilities. Messi is obviously more talented at dribbling with good ball control, bursts of acceleration, and deft touches and has instinctive play making abilities; while Ronaldo’s positioning and killer instinct is something to kill for.

It’s usually the Ronaldopendent people that use the argument of Ronaldo being more hardworking to explain why they prefer him. And someone winning awards for something does not mean he’s better than others. Just like Modric’s case last year. Modric was obviously not the best player in the world, but he won the award. It happens. Doesn’t prove one is as good as the other. It just proves one had a very good year, or other factors were in consideration.

    admin · April 4, 2019 at 6:00 am

    Firstly, thank you for your comment.

    I beg to differ on some of the points that you raised.
    Ronaldo did not become a challenger after Messi..
    No!
    He was always exceptional right from Andorrhina.. Why was he signed at Sporting? Infact, before he signed for Manchester united, did you know there were several clubs lined for his signature, like Madrid and even Barca?

    In the 2006/2007 season and 2007/2008 season, he was player of the season consecutively with 17 and 31 goals respectively. Do not also forget that he won the ballon d’or in 2008, before Messi even won any..

    Also do not forget that Germany 2006 world cup, you could not but notice Ronaldo in that Portuguese team which came fourth, even with the presence of other stars like Figo and Deco.. He was still outstanding!

    Before Messi came on the scene at this level, Ronaldo was already distinct.

    Again, the measure of talent is not objective as you said, and it really is more easier when comparing players like Hazard and Iwobi, with very wide apart stats ad achievements, however, in comparing those with more similar feats, this measure becomes less effective.

DrAyTune · April 4, 2019 at 1:51 pm

TestyB, I won’t even lie. This is the most unbiased Messi VS Ronaldo post I’ve read in a very long time. For those who think both players do not push each other to do more…Read Messi’s latest comments on how he misses CR7 in La liga and CR7’s misunderstood comments where he said Messi should come join him in the SERIE A. If you think these guys do not motivate each other to work harder, you are very wrong.
I’m a MESSI fanatic but I will never talk down on CR7’s greatness except of course if anybody talks down on Messi’s.

PS : TestyB IS GOING PLACES, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

    admin · April 4, 2019 at 1:55 pm

    Thank you so much AY… I would note you said it HERE first!

Adejumobi Edward · April 5, 2019 at 6:27 am

Top notch… I await more

Rhoda · April 9, 2019 at 12:58 pm

Wow.wow.it’s a very great write up. You hit the nail on the head. I really love the analysis. I am a Ronaldo fan anyway😂😂

    Mayokun · April 9, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    I certainly enjoyed reading this piece. Well done, TestyBee!👏👍

FMJ · April 9, 2019 at 1:44 pm

My concern is more about their individual style of play. Two people can do the same thing and arrive at the same answer but they use different method. So I think the argument is between those who prefer CR7 style of play and those who prefer that of LM10. So as we debunk the myth of talent and hard work, we cannot however, do away with preference of style of play.

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